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Productive People Prefer Propertarianism by John Lilley

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By Curt Doolittle

(Note from John Mark: This is one of those epic Curtposts that he is famous for.)

When People Are Presented with The Choice They Will Choose P-Law

—“Your version of Propertarianism requires oppression; denial of equal political rights and full free speech – your dude Mark is already posting how your society will require the first amendment to only allow speech your “truth-judiciary” greenlights.”— N6 @SignHexa

Propertarianism (Natural Law) would restore Defamation & extend commercial liability and warranty to the content of economic, political, and scientific speech, made to the public, and convert Free Speech to Free Truthful (meaning Scientific) and Reciprocal Speech. No More Lies.

How is requiring public speech, to the public, in matters commercial, financial, economic, political, and scientific, meet the criteria of Truthful(Scientific and Operational), and Reciprocal, other than preventing lying to the public?

How is requiring we speak Truthfully, Reciprocally, in pursuit of Exchanges in both private and public rather than lie cheat and steal from one another via government, to redistribute to our favored classes, by arbitrary judgement of individuals or masses – other than optimum?

How is requiring speech be logical, empirical, operational, reciprocal, fully accounted, when one asserts a claim of Good or True anything other than honest, ethical, and moral – and all other claims just dishonest, unethical, and immoral?

Your desire to preserve lying, cheating, stealing, conspiracy, and oppression of the truth, denial of opportunity for exchange, and generation of conflict, and generation of an authoritarian state not ‘Oppression’, where truth, reciprocity, exchange, not ‘Freedom’?

You see you have nowhere to go.

1. You want what you want regardless of the cost to others.
2. You want to lie cheat steal, coerce, and force others to give you what you want.

So;

Why should the opposition RECIPROCATE, and just take from you by all you have to offer: enserfment?

You see, we are happy to let you continue to spread your favelas in your urban “Plantations” (ghettos in training), but we are not willing to let you take our Ethnic groups, our Civilization, our Institutions, our Culture, and our Sovereignty, Liberty, and Freedom with you.

But you are not willing to Reciprocate by Separation (Devolution or Secession) because you cannot survive on your own without the vast middle – the central achievement of western men: a middle class civilization of Reciprocity, Contract and Law: Markets.

So you leave us no choice but civil war.

You are exposed for what you are: a mob of undomesticated, ignorant, barbaric, thieves, ungrateful for the prosperity, freedoms, provided for you by the middle classes of the ancient and modern world, and happy to return to the gutter of equality in poverty you came from.

One needs equal protection UNDER the law to have ‘RIGHTS’. But may only have political ‘POWER’ having demonstrated OBSERVANCE of that law, and achievement under that law: Sovereignty, Reciprocity, Truth, Duty, Jury, and Voluntary Cooperation in every aspect of life.
(You don’t)

So you do not want rights, you want power to violate the rights of others. There is only one natural law, one right, from which all other rights descend both logically, operationally, and empirically: Reciprocity. Because other than reciprocity one can only harm, steal & defraud.

Now, do you see what I did there? I used categorically, logically, empirically, operationally consistent, fully accounted, speech to end your ability to engage in False Promise, Baiting into Hazard, Undue Praise, using Sophism, Critique, and GSRRM.

That is what I teach people.

I teach:
– The Natural Law,
– The Science of Testimony,
– The Grammars of Truth and Deceit,
– The Logics of Acquisition and Compatibility;
And their application to:
– The strict construction of constitutions, legislation, regulation, and findings of the court we call ‘Law’.

I teach:
– The Natural Law,
– The Science of Testimony,
– The Grammars of Truth and Deceit,
– The Logics of Acquisition and Compatibility;
And their application to:
– The strict construction of constitutions, legislation, regulation, and findings of the court we call ‘Law’.

Now you are a naturally dishonest, deceitful, polluter of the informational commons as a practitioner of Abrahamic False Promise, Baiting into Hazard, Pilpul and Critique. A useful idiot for smarter men. But….

I am quite willing to bet, even my life, that the majority is not like you, but ethical and moral, and when given the choice of a truthful reciprocal commons where genders, classes, races can conduct exchanges (disciplined behavior for redistribution) in Government – We win.

Because the truth is that the reason people are unhappy is YOU and the rest of the Useful Idiots who took the genealogy of Abraham > Marx > Stalin > Alinsky > Feminists > Postmodernists > Political Correctness to create conflict between genders, classes, races.

When you offer, as did the jews, christians, and muslims, ignorance, poverty, and decline during the last abrahamic dark age. And you are in the process of creating the next – in a long oscillation between the prosperity created by western man’s truth, reciprocity, and markets…

… and the ignorance, poverty, suffering, of those who destroy them.

The only problem facing western man in the ancient world and in the modern, is that we lacked a book of parables (histories) and scriptures (laws) beyond which no man or woman may tread.

That’s not true any longer. We have our “scripture” of the ancient and modern world.

We have always had it. It’s our law, the natural law.

Sovereignty and Reciprocity, Truth and Duty, Law and Jury, Voluntary Markets in association, cooperation, reproduction, production, commons, and polities.

Defense of all under the law. The purpose of political power being nothing other than the denial of violations of that law, and as a consequence the direction of all people to voluntary mutual cooperation.

Political power that is Egalitarian (open to all of merit and observance of the law) not Equalitarian (independent of merit and observancy of the law).

The only possible counter proposition is that a given group is of such failure in genetics, ability, habits, culture, religion, and institutions, that it cannot engage in productive, voluntary cooperation with others.

Meaning they were demonstrably inferior, and those who could compete were demonstrably superior, and that the central problem is one of self perceived status as inferior.

The solution is separation, separate political, economic and status systems.

Which is how we evolved. So when John and I get to that point, of making a series of videos that explain our position vs yours. And present a constitution that is pure, and another than is tailored to the condition in the west, it is very hard for me to see that you and yours win a moral majority.

Many Libertarians Are Maturing into a "Group Defense" Mindset by John Lilley

By John Mark

A libertarian commented, "You don't need to punish liars, parents just need to educate their children better. How are you going to punish liars, have the government enforce this? Bad idea. Consolidation of power breeds parasitism."

My response:

"You don't need to punish murderers or thieves, parents just need to educate their children better. How are you going to punish murderers and thieves, have the government enforce this? Bad idea. Consolidation of power breeds parasitism." See what I did there?

A. We're not talking about deciding what's truth or not on a whim. We're talking about very specific empirical falsehood tests. It won't be 100% perfect just like we're not 100% perfect about punishing thieves and murderers, but it will be light years better than not having laws that allow for the punishing of public lying, just as it's light years better to have laws against murder and stealing than not to have them.

B. We're talking about punishing lying to the public (by public figures), not regular people in everyday speech.

C. Education doesn't work sufficiently because there is a huge market for lies. You cannot educate most of the world not to lie because most people in the world have an IQ below 90 and thus are not able to discern truth even if they try, plus they don't *want* to speak the truth because it limits them from operating in their optimum short-term strategy (parasitism). The truth only benefits the strong in the short-term (but benefits everyone in the long-term). Watch my videos "Why the Left Never Learns Pt 1 & 2".

D. Libertarians will never have any power, because the very definition of power is the ability to punish what you don't want (in our case, parasitism and lying) using group force, and libertarians *take the government's role in this for granted* as if it just magically "is", while claiming "government is (always) bad". The "good" function of government is punishing parasitism. We've done it so well for so long in the West (while still being imperfect) that everybody takes it for granted. Government (organized use of force) turns "bad" when it engages in parasitism rather than suppressing it. Libertarians claim that "government is bad", by which they mean "government or more goverment is *always* bad". This misses the fact that 1) government (organized force) will always exist because there will always be demand for leadership and organized force (a group cannot survive without it), 2) if you don't have government (organized force to stop crime, parasitism, & to protect your people & your stuff from invasion), you have no power. Anyone who claims "the government can't do any good" is lying (cherry-picking) and anyone who advocates for "no government" is advocating for something that will never occur.

The solution is "better government", not "no government", for the simple reason that "no government" is impossible.

Those who advocate for "smaller government" usually mean "less parasitism". Which is great. But sometimes advocates for "smaller government" make the mistake of assuming that "less/smaller" government is *always* the answer and "more government" is *always* bad.

Classic example: military. (You can make the military more efficient or even shrink it but if you make it too small you put your group and its property at risk of invasion/theft/parasitism.)

Another example: Rule of law & judges. In third-world countries, judges are often paid very poorly. They have "smaller government" as the government does not spend much money on paying judges. But this opens the door wide to parasitism because judges are then strongly tempted to accept bribes. In the West we pay judges well (we have "bigger government" as this is very expensive) and thus judges are high-status, greatly reducing parasitism. (The problem we have with our judges now is due to lack of clarity on jurisprudence in our constitution - in which case the solution is "better government", better-written law, rather than "less government" e.g. paying judges less or having fewer judges.)

This is why Curt Doolittle often says that good rule of law - eliminating parasitism - is "a very expensive investment". Because it is. It takes massive effort - time, organization, money - to punish parasitism. Libertarians take this extremely expensive investment, and its fantastic (especially compared to the rest of the world) results for granted. This is why they get called "lolberts" - because they operate in fantasy-land. "If we can just teach everyone to have the same 'don't be a parasite' values that I have..." They don't realize that most people on this planet do *not* have the "don't be a parasite, leave me alone to produce" instinct. White people, especially white men, are often fooled into thinking they can "teach the world" because half-to-most white men *do* have the "leave me alone to produce" mindset. But most of the rest of the world do *not* have this instinct. Right now we are seeing many libertarians "mature" into "sovereignty" mindset (team defense against parasitism, punishment/power instead of teaching as primary strategy) simply due to the obvious total failure of our ability to teach the left and the parasitic-minded, non-reciprocal foreign masses they are importing at warp speed.

So it is more clear and accurate to speak of "better government vs worse government" rather than "smaller government vs bigger government". Because in some cases an investment in "bigger" government is necessary to punish a certain form of parasitism. The terms "better" and "worse" government more accurately convey the reality of the Right's optimum strategy than "smaller" and "bigger". Similar to how the words "reciprocity/rule-of-natural-law vs parasitism" are more accurate than "capitalism vs socialism". In both these cases the improved terminology more accurately conveys the fact that the master key to a long-term successful/wealthy/competitive group is enforcing reciprocity (eliminating/suppressing all forms of parasitism on all forms of property).

The problem with terms like "capitalism" and "smaller government" is that they have less-specific definitions and cannot be applied 100% of the time with a good result, whereas enforcing reciprocity and punishing parasitism *can* be applied 100% of the time with good result.

On the Grassroots Right Wing, We Can Learn from Our Leaders Who Have Experience in the World of Ruthless Men by John Lilley

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By John Mark

As grassroots Right-wingers, it is extremely valuable to have a leader (Curt Doolittle) on our team that has extensive experience in the ruthless world of "the people who run things". The western, mostly white, working and middle class is fighting a two-front battle against the left and the elites. One of the middle class's weaknesses (which is a weakness for almost all humans and groups) is thinking that what "makes sense" or "feels right/good" to us must make others feel that way too. (It doesn't.)

So when it comes time to talk solutions, the middle class instinctively wants to teach or moralize to the left & the elites: "Be like us. Don't be a parasite. Be truthful. Earn your way and don't cheat." Fatal miscalculation. The Left needs to be parasites (their best short-term strategy)(amoral seizing of opportunities) and the elites just calculate without regard for morality (amoral seizing of opportunities). Only the working/middle class has the incentives (enough ability to succeed on merit, not enough power to seize parasitic opportunities) to keep a moral structure in place (truth, reciprocity) that will keep our civilization ascendant.

So the working/middle class is learning that we must ruthlessly suppress/punish parasitism by force rather than persuasion, which has limited to zero effect on our enemies. I have enough experience at the decision-making levels of influential organizations to know that people at this level simply calculate. (For example, the leaders of big corporations are giving in to the Left’s social agenda because they calculate that it benefits them more than it costs them, right now.) But there are men with a lifetime of battle scars, victories, losses, and survival in these arenas. It is not an accident that the leader at the vanguard of this movement, Curt Doolittle, has a lot of experience with ruthless people. Similar dynamic with Trump, but with less intellectual output - a lifetime of dealing with snakes. Men like Trump and Curt, men of means and experience, almost always end up on our enemy's team - the elites. One of the strengths these men bring to the table is their understanding that utter ruthlessness is required to deal with those (our enemies) who will ruthlessly exploit any opportunity for parasitism.

This is why it took me awhile to grasp why some people complain about Propertarianism or a rule of law based solution in general, saying things like, "But it doesn't have a spiritual/aesthetic component." I eventually figured out that it's because the people saying this a) take the powerful positive effects of good rule of law for granted, and b) have never had responsibility for much of anything, and are simply expressing desire for solutions in line with what they understand and are familiar with. People with real responsibility, the people who run things, don't care about that. They only care what the rules are and how much they can get away with so they can win, regardless of the costs they impose on others. (And the Left cares not for rules at all.)

Teaching is not going to stop them. Moralizing is not going to stop them. A religion is not going to stop them. Aesthetics is not going to stop them. All of these things can be valuable, but they are not our ultimate solution. Only rule of natural law enforced by a team of sovereign men organized into a militia and institutions will stop them.

It took a man with great experience in the world of amoral ruthless men, combined with a love for the truth and a love for his people, to help us learn how to stop amoral ruthless parasites.

And I, for one, am grateful for it.